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The purpose of the No 1st Cost List(N1CL) is to create
"truthful, relevant, objective" news verified by challenges from anyone.

Getting Truthful News from our "biased" news media seems impossible. Their politics trump facts.
Reporters can't correct themselves because they won't answer "Public Challenges" to their reports.

The reason for not answering Public challenges lies in human nature.
Our "news people", our politicians, in fact, few of us, want to admit that we are wrong or biased.

Finding scientists and reporters who are not afraid to answer challenges in public is required.
Honest people will work for money and the public status given
when we publicly acknowledge they created true news for all.

The No 1st Cost List does both by patent specifications,
It Pays us To Report and ranks those who earn the most reporting real News.
By doing this in public we Earth people are saying we seek
truthful "objective" information we all can rely on.

The certain consequence of NOT paying to eliminate dishonest public reports
is that we ignore the costs of bad news until it suddenly kills us all.

Keeping information accurate and relevant means listing corrections and changes first.
12-13-17 List latest edits, corrections and additions to this Front Page(FP)

First Listed Is The News Report That Could Save Earth From Certain Death

The good news about the event predicted; it can be prevented.

The bad news, none of you want to talk about it. No public talk, no prevention.
For sure, none of you will be able to assert you were not warned.

I have incontrovertible proofs for the prediction below,

The tests are easy and quick to do. Up to now our "scientific establishments" have covered up some of the crucial evidence proving my prediction. Historically normal behavior for scientists protecting inadequate established theory. We don't need our governments or scientific establishments to do these tests.
They are cheap and only require want to. Our children die if you don't want to.

Earth, our home, will be vaporized on July 16, 2024 unless we prevent it.

A Theory of Everything(ToE) and publicly verified evidence conclusively prove this prediction.

Question & Answer(Q&A) Procedures for Challenges & Questions

by Dan Alter, scientist, co-inventor of the N1CL, Patent# 8566730 issued 10/22/2013

Short Autobiography

The question we must answer first,
Should we try to prevent Earth from being vaporized?

Successful prevention still means many of us will die,
all unless we cooperate to create honest accurate news for all.

Not oddly, the first strong confirmation of my warning is the
proof that Government scientists have actively suppressed the
conclusive evidence and tests that prove conservation debts exist.

These actions raise the question: Who controls our governments for whose gain?
People lie for gain so right now liars control us. Stopping public liars is simple,
you only accept News from people who answer public challenges.

We make our own fate, ignoring is easy, seeking truth is not.
Easy means Earth dies.

10-28-17 We are not fully operational yet, but feel free to register and ask questions.
Our Q&A Procedures are buggy so we can use the topic replies to ask and answer questions.

I made the list a sole owner/manager managed LLC (limited liability corporation) to
maintain the N1CL's purpose and form in perpetuity through any changes in ownership.

That purpose means any changes are intended to maintain how much we will pay
to create accurate News(50% of SGR = Stipulated Gross Revenues)), and to better protect
the purpose and mechanism of creating accurate News in perpetuity.

It starts with paying 50% of Stipulated Gross Revenues(SGR) for News
Reports by reporters and challengers who agrees to use the N1CL Q&A Procedures.

Stipulated Gross Revenues(SGR) = All revenues but:

1. 10% of total revenues for operational overhead,

2. Monetary transaction costs and all taxes,

3. "Competitions & Games" made possible by the Q&A Dialogues pay 95% out by rule to participants.
The remaining 5% of "Game revenues" is the cost to the List of running these "Competitions & Games".

The N1CL LLC will use at least 20% of SGR = Stipulated Gross Revenues to develop
Faster Than Light(FTL) space travel and communication until that job is done.
FTL is made possible by the Pending Patent Invention described below.

This invention fixes the problem our physicists found after they demonstrated
instant entangled communication between separated "clocks & quantum communication
devices" on Earth, then lost entanglement when they put one half in orbit.

They lost entanglement because Relativity says the separated entangled clocks now have different
clock speeds. My invention fixes that problem and also implies how we can travel at FTL Which
helps ensure prevention and to possibly send some of us to other life bearing star systems.

Since our governments are preventing our cooperation by withholding relevant facts
We must act together to talk in PUBLIC about this Sun explosion so we can prevent it.
Only the N1CL News testing procedures will enable us to verify this prediction ASAP.

Why did we invent the N1CL?

In 1984 I made a fundamental discovery in economics that destroyed limited liability for anyone,
especially large corporations and governments, with the exceptions proving the rule. My Phd mentors told me
I was right in private, then blocked publication. I vowed I would figure out a way that self-interested insiders
would not get away with this again, thus the N1CL. In turn, my discovery that there was no limiting Liability,
only a choice about who we make pay for damages, led to basic physics discoveries which directly implied
we life forms must create a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter = the universe enforces Strict Liability,
i.e. the bill has come due.

Objective facts take two or more of us to create by agreeing we see or measure the same things.
For example, scientific facts mean any of us can potentially verify them for ourselves.
A scientist or reporter must be a honest eyewitness to create scientific facts and real news.
Ergo, the facts in or implied by truthful statements are relevant and as accurate as possible.

So how does the N1CL ensure the creation of accurate, truthful News Reports?

By paying well for the reports and the challenges to them!

How Stipulated Gross Revenues will be allocated.

1. 5% to issued WOUs.

2. 50% SGR goes to Reporters and those who challenge, correct and edit reporters News Reports.

3. 20% of SGR is dedicated to developing the c(light speed) velocity/vector meter required
to create FTL communication and space travel. With FTL our odds of prevention go up a lot.
We are going to use a N!CL dedicated sub group for this purpose. I will not charge any royalties until July 17, 2024, nor prevent any members of this subgroup from developing patents resting on the c velocity/vector meter as long as they agree to the same terms on royalties and patents developed by other members of this group. (When any members of this sub-group do start charging royalties after July 16, 2024, whoever is highest sets my rate.)

4. 10% for N1CL software development.

5. 5% To legal expenses to protect free speech, whistle blowers, and for default fund.

6. 4-5% for sales and override expenses.

7. Profits invested or distributed at 'managers' discretion.

8. 1% to manager for swearing to maintain, protect, and grow the List and maintain its earmarks in perpetuity.
Manager must designate the next two managers(i.e. they must add one and may change the other upon becoming manager).

Register Now, we never release your email to anyone,
internally or externally by software design.

Agreeing to answer public challenges puts a stop to
public lies and corrects mistaken reports from anyone,
especially from public servants, scientists, or reporters.
No honest society tolerates "fake news" from anyone.

Four of many benefits:
The basic member legal agreement ensures we can,
1. Reward those who expose public liars.
2. Screen out unwanted ads.-----------------
3. Blocks illegal government spying.-------
4. Verify predictions of Threats to Earth.--

"I do not believe in a fate that falls on men however they act;
but I do believe in a fate that falls on them unless they act."

Here Is Our Fate:

Missing Earth(ME) crop circle, down on June 26, 1995.

How Earth is vaporized is shown precisely in a three
step sequence by the first large complex circle.
Barbary Castle(BC) put down at 1:35 AM GMT, July 17, 1991.
Exactly as my February 1991 thought experiment predicted.

Who put this minimal public warning sequence down?
Clearly only someones who has seen this up close from space.

That can not be us, implying E-Ts with FTL.

Disclosure Project has over 500 sworn high level
government witnesses to USA government doing face to face business with E-Ts.

These witnesses testified in front of Congress on the Public Record.

The E-Ts have given us a very graphic how & when warning.
E-T Warning Message Summary revised 3-20-17

I assure you, our scientists do know about my warning.
After I talked with them in 1993, about the Long Term Gamma Blasters our satellites were tracking,
the NASA sites that tracked these unique Sun explosions disappeared immediately.

Gamma Rays are the signature of a matter/anti-matter explosion.
These Gamma Ray solar explosions come from all over the sky at about once a week.

Now our establishment astro-physicists publicly call them Gamma Bursters.
Worse they say they are extra-galactic with no Afterglow. A lie.
The Afterglow is the vaporized gas cloud from a former living planet.

In 1997 Hubble tracked one Long Term Gamma Blaster that was 7800 light years away.
Hubble saw ts Afterglow fade away exactly as shown in the Barbary Castle circle.
"The Optical Counterpart To The Gamma Ray burst GR970228 Observed Using
The Hubble Telescope" 'Nature' May 29, 1997 page 476."
Real scientists don't lie.

Perhaps our leaders think they can save themselves by building underground doomsday
shelters for themselves as they have in fact done. The E-Ts will pick and choose who they save,
would that include leaders who save themselves while letting their own people die without warning?

Given I can show us how to detect the nearest Stars with a life bearing planet,
and we could send some of us to such a planet, would we try to save our
above described leaders, or we would try to save our best and brightest?

God plays fair, we have been given the minimal chance to save Earth and ourselves.
How did I know what the Barbary Castle(BC) showed?
Why we can stop the Sun from exploding 7-16-2024, theory & Evidence

It started with my thought experiment in February 1991 predicting that we spirits must create
a conservation debt; then on February 10, 1992, while talking with Gerard Hawkins, a world famous geometrician
about what the BC circle pictured, I realized that it showed the Sun explosion I had theoretically predicted
happening to Earth. This elegant geometric hieroglyph absolutely confirmed our conservation debt was real and returning soon.

I started warning us in late February 1992 after
I deduced theoretically that
Prevention Was Possible with a way you, me and everyone will not like, ensuring this method works,
meant discovering how to do Faster Than Light(FTL) like the E-Ts, which also means we can send
some of us to other life bearing stars.They will burn anomalously, like they have a small black hole at there centers.

I first posted this warning on the Front Page(FP) of the N1CL on April 27, 2005.

Over the last twenty five years, I discovered new evidence
that advanced my constant inquiry
into how to do Faster Than Light(FTL) travel, which led to discovering a revolutionary
new physics that removes Relativity's mistaken limitations on FTL.

With real FTL and real instantaneous communication anywhere in the universe;
then with real-time public political cooperation, we save ourselves.

New Patent filed 2/20/17 entitled a
"Relative to 'c' Velocity/Vector/Meter", & how develop.

It is required for prevention as it makes possible:

1. Instant Faster Than Light(FTL) communication between spaceships & star systems,-----
or around Earth in case of CMEs, EMPs, or the loss of satellites from our orbital debris;
2. determining where we are located on the surface of our Moebius universe;-----------------
3. knowing where makes possible Faster Than Light travel;-----------------------------------------
4. E-T civilizations that maintain entanglement with "c Velocity/Vector meters" can use a--
deducible common 'frequency' to communicate between other star systems and spaceships.

Frequency deduction done 4-28-17,
there is only one possible common entangled universal frequency
for entangled communication between FTL capable civilizations.
What Base Entangled Frequency would E-Ts Use to Communicate?

We are doing an expedited patent application.

We are going to need instant real time communication to minimize our certain losses. Awaken, think, act.

So why didn't the E-Ts warn us directly, since the E-Ts know it can be prevented??
Instead they used precise geometric pictures showing how and when they put down in wheat fields?

Could it be long ago they helped planets who were sociopathic societies like ours?.
Planets that did not consciously and politically practice No First Cost?

Helping means showing sociopaths FTL and thus how to find the E-T home planets.

A sociopath: Someone(s) who will not abide by a public
objective moral standard. They are "I first" all the time.

I bet the E-Ts got burned badly by giving sociopaths with H-bombs, like us, the FTL path to their home planets.

I bet that took a long bloody time to clean up, what do you think?

That means until we agree to politically enforce the Law of No First Cost rigorously upon each other,
they will let us die. They will not help us. Deeds speak. Only the real public use of the No First Cost List speaks

It is our debt, our responsibility, not another civilizations.
We can choose to save Earth with as many of us as possible,
or we all die except those the E-Ts choose to save.

Why we must enforce No First Cost should be obvious;
because everyone I observe does not like
being struck first, lied to, robbed, or etc.
It is an objective public standard of moral behavior because
each of us agrees that being struck first should not be done
to ourselves and thus anyone else when we are honest.
No first Cost sisters and brothers, equal citizens of Earth.

How can we start to live by this universal moral standard?

It starts by Seeking to create Truthful Public News.
That requires the Public Challenges and and resulting
Dialogues of the No 1st Cost List.

This is the Minimal Action the E-Ts Would Require From Us to Help?

The bill has come due for Earth. We have seven years, barely enough time to prepare.

The Proofs

Every causal link in this theoretical prediction has been confirmed by published scientific reports. Once we confirm the unnatural conjunction in the ME circle and do the simple tests confirming that a part of Gravity moves Faster Than Light(FTL), and by using the crucial new invention described above,
we also can go FTL and stop it.
Why we can stop Sun from exploding, theory and evidence.

There are two ways of prevention.

1. Over 50% or more of life on Earth dies during the six months just before July 16, 2024.
It is problematic without the second.

The first way can be done "by accident". For example, when we "accidentally" cause radiation levels to sky rocket worldwide. Joila! Lucky us, Fukushima is taking care of that.
Why did EPA secretly try to increase allowed radiation in water by thousands of times?


Why Fukushima is still pouring radiation into our oceans.

We are a living planet, mother Earth knows what is coming and is using us to save herself. Delay in verifying this prediction can only make this 50% plus die off method much worse for us.

The second way of disconnection requires Faster Than Light(FTL) space travel which rests on the invention described above.

I suspect those billionaires wanting to send a manned chemical rocket to Mars would prefer to go zip/zap back and forth instead.

I will publish this patent in a way that ensures those who want to help do FTL quickly for all, a very profitable life saving offer that makes possible the second more certain A-M debt disconnection method.

I have described how we can save ourselves.

First we must do the tests, report the results on the List so we can confirm/disprove this dire prediction.

Who will do these tests and list the results on the N1CL?

The easy tests that confirm this prediction.
Which astronomers will confirm the conjunction in the ME circle?

1. Verify the must be caused conjunction in the Missing Earth(ME) crop circle, down on June 26, 1995. shows exactly when the Earth is first struck by the ray from the Sun shown in the Barbary Castle(BC), the first large complex circle on July 17, 1991. using the The 65 ME Asteroids orbital radius and diameter calculator.

Who will do the other two simple tests that confirm the basic physics underlying my prediction?

2. A cannonball fired parallel to Earth's exact center will show that a part of Gravity from the cannonball will go instantly towards Earth's center, while the other directions will show a delayed signal = a blip blip signal. Wrap the sensors around mouth of the muzzle. Abrams tank will do.

3. Use the 1750 world wide tidal buoys to show Gravity from the Sun arrives about five seconds faster than light would arrive. Use the instant each buoy at right angle to tide reaches its highest point. We have the records going back many years.

How is Earth actually trying to prevent itself from being vaporized?

It reminds me of the man who was asked by the judge if he had any last words before his hanging. "If it wasn't for the honor, Your Honor, I would just as soon forgo the occasion.

The simplest way to disconnect from our conservation debt is when over 50% but less than 100% of the higher life forms on a planet die towards the end of the last year, or simulate death by not moving at the same time, then our A-M conservation debt goes away and thus we are, at a much lower number, reborn to rise again. Cooperating to not move can be done by public agreement between ourselves.

The problem is that while humans can agree to not move, its getting the rest of the higher life forms on Earth to do the same, especially in the oceans.

We are, apparently unconsciously, not waiting for a pubic agreement to try killing off the oceans.

Mother Earth used our greedy leaders and a kept ignorant citizenry:

Our oceans are dying with radiation from Fukushima. Your Radiation This Week describes Fukushima and our other nuclear reactors rapidly rising effects in our atmosphere.

This 'unconscious' action was permitted to happen by our "elected" politicians = we, the people. Ergo, a large majority of us have refused to acknowledge that not dealing with nuclear waste or other real pollutants(not CO2) will eventually kill most of us. "luckily" for us our ignorance is irreversibly causing the death of our world ocean.

Ignorance is not bliss. Right now we need to stop being a
Three Monkey Society. e.g. Obama's above secret action on radiation limits.

Public acknowledgment of what is happening to our ocean is required for us to use the "simulating our death by not moving" method, or possibly a more certain high tech method.

This is Why Fukushima is still pouring radiation into our oceans. The ice wall they are purportedly finishing now can't work as the URL so clearly explains.

Our dying oceans are confirmed by well measured spikes in radiation in the waters off the Pacific and NE USA coasts.

Here are some of the costs of the "good news". Scientists: "Unexpectedly huge mortality events" Happening. One must conclude our "self generated" radiation pollution from Fukushima is killing our oceans and thus most of us over the next seven years.

Apparently we built Fukushima because killing our "free pollution" based "civilization" is required for our survival.

The solution, of course, is to hold our leaders strictly accountable for not making polluters pay for pollution costs as they occur. Pain is how we learn to think. Time is short and our job is to save as many as possible.

How I figured out the Date the E-Ts showed us.

Awful glad my first guesses on the date were way off. I posited the nearest possible for obvious reasons.

From six to twelve to twenty one and finally the only possibility left, thirty three years. Only when I realized the ME circle was showing us the start of the 21 year countdown literally two days before July 16, 2012 did I relax. A lovely extra 12 years to July 16, 2024. Wrong predictions, a scientists path to the truth.

No more possibilities now. The E-T warning message is old, so refined, so elegant, and minimal.

A warning you give to murderous sociopathic liars like our present war making leaders. You warn, you pray we change, but you do not let us roam the stars with H-bombs?

My question now is: Are we going to see the truth about ourselves; that we are not yet a 'moral' society. Will we band together as one people and grow up by trying to save as many as possible, by pursuing the truth, especially when you don't like it, and above all, not lying, stealing, cheating, and murdering to get your way like my country does right now. We'll see.


First.Make the N1CL minimally functional with working Q&A and debugged. We are getting close.

Second. Begin signing up Full Members now who accept we are not fully functional yet and they will receive 10 WOUs each.

Those who register and say they want to become Full Members after we are functional, will be offered four WOUs for $5 each after full payment of their first years full membership.
Only the first 5,000 Full members registered will receive either the 10 free for not waiting, or pay for the 4 WOUs after we become functional.

In addition, The first 5,000 registrants will also be considered first for participation in developing the fundamental FTL patent described below.

Remember, only actually issued to the public WOUs share in the 5% SGR.

b]Third.[/b] Raise the capital needed to grow N1CL fast as soon as we are functional. The initial price for WOUs will be substantially above $5 a WOU.
The N1CL uses We Owe You(WOUs) to borrow the money needed for Initial and Future Capital, Research, & Start-up Operating Expenses.

There are only 100 million WOUs in our treasury and there number will not increase.
However we or you can sub-divide them. This means cut one in half,
then its share of the 5% of SGR is cut to 2.5% SGR per half and so on.

Our devout PLAN is to keep the issued number to under 10% of the total, thus increasing the amount of the "5% in perpetuity" repayment percentage.

Our success rests on your realization that we require a N1CL
to create real honest NEWS for all so we can become a civilized world.

Fourth. Do these tests: Tests Prove Gravity Moves From C To Instant & Implications

1. Which astronomers will confirm the conjunction in the ME circle and who will do the other two simple tests and that will absolutely confirm my prediction?

Amateur Astronomers can verify the must be caused conjunction in the Missing Earth(ME) crop circle, down on June 26, 1995. shows exactly when the Earth is first struck by the ray from the Sun shown in the Barbary Castle(BC), the first large complex circle on July 17, 1991. using the The 65 ME Asteroids orbital radius and diameter calculator.

2. This test takes the military and gravitational physicists to do.

A cannonball fired parallel to Earth's exact center will show that a part of Gravity from the cannonball will go instantly towards Earth's center, while the other directions will show a delayed signal = a blip blip signal. Wrap the sensors around mouth of the muzzle. Abrams tank will do.

3. This test takes someone(s) familiar with the tidal buoy data.

Use the 1750 world wide tidal buoys to show Gravity from the Sun arrives about five seconds faster than light would arrive. Use the instant each buoy at right angle to tide reaches its highest point. We have the records going back many years.

4. Verify that the means of the orbits of Mercury and Venus shown in the BC circle, just as Earth's mean is shown at the one spoke circle starting the little three frame picture of our vaporization. Barbary Castle circle shows. Anyone numerate can do.

5. 12-11-14 Edited Show that the asteroid conjunction in the "Missing Earth" lines up with sidereal year anniversary of July 17, 1991 at 1:35 UDT and thus July 16, 2024 at 16:32 UDT.. Ergo, the time left to prevent Earth from being vaporized.

4. 2-4-2017 Needed A-M debt Disconnection Tools, Measurements & Must Do's Force NASA to show us where they are keeping the Long Term Gamma Blaster event record and force them to list those with Afterglows, the gas cloud from a vaporized living planet.

Edited 4-27-15 Where & How we can go Faster than Light

Further ToDos to finish this Front Page and get List ready

5. The consequences of the breakup of Earth's Three Monkey Society.

7. Figure out exactly the fixed number of orbits a living planet has once its conservation A-M debt starts. 1-21-17 Did so last night. A simple geometric relationship: Diameter of Moebius/Phi. With FTL we can get to it using a wormhole opening that comes annually, getting back will be another problem.

9. Saving our sea animals genes becomes necessary and thus possible once we recognize our oceans are dying.
10. On writing a GUT Explain why 0/0 is the base premise for describing how the base forces of our universe interact from where we sit = writing a simple GUT theory that ties the four basic forces together from all life forms common point of view: Own Time Cost Minimization. Zero the number is the key. Understanding how we use it to manipulate the number line lets us see ourselves and above all our location with respect to the rest of our marvelous universe implying FTL travel. Using zero(s) to count numbers more accurately.

Had not E-Ts warned us how our sun explodes, we could not save ourselves.

Proof Our Government Does Business With E-Ts.

Hundreds of high level government witnesses testified under oath about our government doing business with E-Ts, .

Clearly only E-Ts could give us this warning. Two impossible to do overnight crop circle, an exact three sidereal year after the BC circle comet strike, an unnatural conjunction warning message in the ME circle.

So this raises a question: Can we demand that the E-Ts help us with some technology? I thought that once they did a warning, no matter how indirect, once we asked "in public" they would have a moral obligation to directly help us do at least the "lie down" disconnection. But in rethinking the question I have concluded, no way. Not impeding us is the best we can hope for. They would have a death wish to turn us loose with FTL, h bombs and access to their planets.

I suspect they have already picked those they will save before Earth is scheduled to fry.

A CONCLUSION: How we must develop this FTL technology in time.

I will explain my reasoning below. Clearly our governments can not be involved. They can not be trusted. It must be done privately with a private sub group of the N1CL whose members will share there research with each other as the royalty for using the patent. Billionaires will pay the most for membership. An NDA will be required. The upshot is two ships for saving Earth. All others built can be used as the builders please. More details later.

METHODS & Materials needed for disconnecting our A-M debt USING FTL.
1. Describe and outline how to travel Faster Than Light(FTL). A good chunk of the way there theoretically. Implementing and testing takes want to. e.g. Anti-gravity is a direct implication of this technology. A question for our governments: Are the E-Ts blocking our attempts at doing Anti-Gravity or FTL? Yes proves Had not E-Ts warned us how our sun explodes, we couldn't.. Which means no FTL unless we survive.

3. There two at least. As of 1-15-16 it looks like the First and simplest Method may have become possible now. Why dead oceans are good news.

1-02-16 Can we determine the location of our Anti-Matter(A-M) conservation debt?, the latest revision.

4. How we create Liberty ensured by an honest government is a practical moral question. There is only one Don't above all others. We must not tolerate public lies by our political leaders by commission, and especially by omission. Ergo a N1CL.

1-25-16 addition to How do we stop our Sun from exploding. now makes my first proposed method possible. A good news/ bad news. We are going to find out if we are a noble species.

Our leaders both scientific and political are incapable of admitting when they are shown wrong. Many deliberately educate their and our children to be offended when disagreed with. The exact opposite behavior required of an honest citizen and especially a real scientist.

Prevention requires we know precisely where our A-M debt is at. Can we determine the location of our A-M conservation debt?

It is up to We, the People to make our fate. "No fate but what we make." Terminator 2.

Some crucial recent changes:

7-17-15 There are two questions that must be answered to do a disconnection using a FTL star ship. 1. Why is the speed of light exactly 186,000 miles per second? That answer comes from deducing the basic geometric ratio in a Moebius geometry universe that directly predicts the speed of c across M surface using Planck's constant. Done??(How & Why please).

2. Exactly where is our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter, so we can go to it with a FTL star ship and deflect it from its course? By using the Pythagorean Theorem properly this can be done. See e|Phi article.

Edited 4-27-15 Where & How we can go Faster than Light

How we deal with the E-Ts is the key to saving Earth.

David Jacobs in his book "Secret Lives" on E-T abductees reported this exchange between a lady abductee and her E-T abductor. "You have no right to do this to me." the E-T answered, "Yes we do.". A moral question with a moral answer. Notice the E-T said "we", implying a societal decision.
The crop circles are obviously very old ritual hieroglyphs, elegantly said.

It looks like the E-Ts who warned us with the crop circles want to save a moral planet should we choose to become moral.

But look at what our governments do now.

The fiddling with the temperature record is the biggest science scandal ever.

How do we fix this behavior?
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25% is a strong incentive for false assertions of error and verifications. Therefore the reporter makes all decisions on who gets paid with some constraints.

The second 25% is held for one year except for 5% for edits and 5% for clarifying factual questions received and accepted by the reporter in the first two weeks after posting. This up to 10% is paid from the date of the news report.

At the end of the year when there are no edits, factual questions accepted or disagreements made then the reported gets the whole 50%. This occurs when the reporter does not accept any edits or clarifying questions as the unused up to 10% reverts to the Disagreement pool making it = 25% paid to a possible Challenger.
a) 5% SGR for edits accepted, split equally when there is more than one.
b) 5% SGR for new clarifying questions accepted by the reporter for answering, split equally between questions accepted.
c) 15% to 25% SGR when an agreement is reached on the answer to disagreements that assert inaccuracies, is illogical, or incomplete; and/or accepted verifications are paid to the questioner(s) and/or verifier(s) split equally when more than one.

When a disagreement on an assertion of error or a refusal to accept a verification is NOT Resolved then either party may challenge and a new Challenge Report is begun in which both share the 50% first hit SGR for a report equally and either can accept edits, any factual questions, and any inaccuracy or illogical question, etc on their writings up to 10% each.

The remaining 30% or more is split equally when they agree on how to resolve the question.

No resolving agreement and the remaining 30% goes to the GAME!!! for resolving.

Any reporter or challenger must agree to use the mano a mano rules governing challenge below.

Should a challenge arise later, then the challenger must post a new Challenge Report and the original reporter/news org. agrees to go mano a mano until they reach an agreement on the Challenge. All reporters must agree to accept Challenges in order to report. (Put in user agreements)

Anybody think of a fairer way to reach accurate info. I am all ears.

With the heart of the List, the N1CL Question & Answer Procedures.

Read and think.

Question & Answer(Q&A) Dialogue Procedures

Anyone can Become a Member!

Anyone can "Recommend/Not-Recommend, Warn, or Dispute Public Facts". The N1CL calls doing this a "Yes/No"!

Anyone can Question a Member's or Yes/No person's postings on their Public forum!

How Do Entries to N1CL Public Record Work:
You have 10 minutes after submission to edit, change, or delete your entry on your N1CL Public Forum or Q&A; then the entry is locked. You can always add more replies to your topic, or an answer in a Q&A dialogue to clarify until the other party answers. Also you can use open to all comment forums first to improve entry without answering questions on your comments.

To Ask a Question:
the Questioner and 'the Member or "Yes/No" person'
agree to respond in turn,
until the Questioner accepts the answer, or they agree to Disagree giving reason(s); using the 'Last Response' mechanism described below.

To Forward The Q&A Dialogue; either can check the "I beg to differ with you with reason(s)" box.

There are Four Ways to End a Q&A Dialogue:

1) The Questioner can check "I accept." and say something;

2) the Questioner can Accept by Default by not replying within 36 hour;

3) EITHER on their turn, can check 'this is my last response'; to which the OTHER can Accept by checking "I accept"; Or by Not Replying within 36 hours;

4. After stating reason(s) checks "I Disagree with the Last Response".

Changing an 'acceptance by not replying in time' to an 'I disagree' must be done during next logon.

Non-Members can not be questioned on the N1CL record about their Q&A dialogues with a Member or Yes/No person; but anyone can question their "Yes/No's".

The N1CL Interface's Best Feature

The Automatic Consequence giving users the Public workload each can handle: Unless your Dialogues are current; the N1CL Interface automatically blocks you from asking or being asked a new question.

Except for 'not replying' to a 'this is my last response'; Staying Current is a reply within 36 hours after your notice e-mail is sent. The block is automatically removed when you become current. Except for larger organizations, you can block new questions at any time by stating a reason; e.g. vacation, sick.

Show Your Honesty To All By Becoming A Full Member

Question a Member-'No/Yes' person |
Apply for Betamembership


Honest Businesses and People Are Not Afraid
To Answer Public Questions From Anyone,
Especially About Their Public Warnings.

FIRST WARNING & COMPLAINT stays Until Public Response On N1CL Public Record by USA President.

Scientist COMPLAINS Our Political Leaders & Scientists are IGNORING WARNING of Preventable Sun EXPLOSION on JULY 16, 2024

SECOND QUESTION "Why won't any of our elected leaders ask about a scientifically verifiable warning about a certain cataclysmic danger to all?".

Why is simple. They are all charter members of our Three Monkey Society(3MS) Leadership. They never ask, "How do my actions or inactions cost others(you)?.

I can scientifically prove why NOT enforcing our laws on leaders; always massively reduces our wealth and collective time alive. Our leaders will kill us all unless we make them act.

How we can measure a 3MS effects on the common good.

What Must Be Done

The only way we will survive this is with citizens and leaders who will swear to speak the truth in public.

A big personal benefit. Anyone can prove they "Stand Behind Their Word", especially people in government and business.

How to create Trusted News about Yourself or Anything else. Any person, business, or organization can join the No 1st Cost List after they accept these three agreements:

(1) You swear to speak honestly and seek the truth when using the N1CL Public Record;

(2) you agree to answer questions from anyone about anything you put on the N1CL public record, as long as you and the questioner;

(3) agree to the Question and Answer(Q&A) procedures and 'Best Feature' inside.

Anyone Can Ask a Question for free. No one can question a 'non-member questioner' about their Q&A dialogues.
How you can post a Yes/No for free. Anyone can post a 'Yes/No' (Recommend/Not Recommend, Warn, Dispute Public Facts), about the public actions of any person or organization; as long as they agree to answer questions from anyone, only about their Yes/No; subject to agreement (3).

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Dan: "The hardest thing to see is yourself."
13-Dec-2017 17:44:35
Dan: "Seek truth and all else follows."
06-Dec-2017 14:45:43
Dan: Back to Ishkabibble's observation that we are in fact 'one world', there is no outside unless we plan on exchanging with other E-T worlds. So the question is raised: What system of Laws do we live under? Obviously wars between nations would be prohibited. Clearly with only one worldwide market, just individuals exchange or groups of persons who freely associate to XC with anyone else worldwide. Wowsers!!! that means politicians are to protect the freedom for all free people to engage in uncoerced XC with other free people. i.e. protect the peace between us. Gee willikers, hmmm; it seems that duty has escaped at least American politicians hasn’t it? Whose fault is that in a purported democracy??? Peace between we citizens of Earth is a political choice. It is time we acted like grownups, don't you think???
02-Dec-2017 19:35:11
Dan: "Russian Insider 12-01-17 Western politicians are like schoolyard nerds who, fearing the tough kid, huddle together to look bigger. Every Russian kid knows that seeking safety in numbers is a surefire sign of a scared wimp."
02-Dec-2017 08:24:35
Dan: Russian Insider 12-01-17 "As for the EU it is “enjoying” a much-deserved irrelevance while being mostly busy absorbing wave after wave of society-destroying refugees proving, yet again, the truth of the saying that if your head is in the sand, your ass is in the air."
02-Dec-2017 08:20:39
Dan: Ishkabibble Nov 30, 2017 at 6:17 pm ALL of the individual national economies of the world must NOT depend upon exporting or importing stuff — whether that stuff is TVs or weapon systems or terrestrial resources or food. The logic of this recommendation is easier to understand if one thinks of the entire world as only ONE nation with only ONE SINGLE economy. Looking at the world in this way, if importing and exporting is vitally necessary for ANY economy (including the aforementioned macro-economy) to survive and thrive, to and from just exactly WHOM would this true macro-economy “export” and “import” — the people of Mars? No. This one-economy-world (the one we are actually living in right now) will at some point HAVE to figure out how to “go it alone”. NOT having accepted that this is necessary is IMO exactly why “the world” is going through what it is going through today. And this is why all of the individual national economies of the world should IMMEDIATELY, DELIBERATELY start “figuring out” and then implement the design of an economic system in which they “go it alone” while providing a decent standard of living for their citizens.
01-Dec-2017 12:58:01
Dan: This quote says it well from "Do Disclosures of Atrocities Change Anything?" By ALEXANDER COCKBURN Counterpunch, July 31, 1010. twitchy questions such as that asked by The Nation’s Chris Hayes on the Rachel Maddow Show: “I wonder ultimately to whom WikiLeaks ends up being accountable.” The answer to that last question was given definitively in 1851 by Robert Lowe, editorial writer for the London Times. He had been instructed by his editor to refute the claim of a government minister that if the press hoped to share the influence of statesmen, it “must also share in the responsibilities of statesmen.” “The first duty of the press,” Lowe wrote, “is to obtain the earliest and most correct intelligence of the events of the time, and instantly, by disclosing them, to make them the common property of the nation… The Press lives by disclosures… For us, with whom publicity and truth are the air and light of existence, there can be no greater disgrace than to recoil from the frank and accurate disclosure of facts as they are. We are bound to tell the truth as we find it, without fear of consequences – to lend no convenient shelter to acts of injustice and oppression, but to consign them at once to the judgment of the world.”]. I can not say this better. We seek the truth as individuals and when enough of us do in public then we become a civilized society. I know it does not have to be a majority, but it must be at least a few percent of us; then the exemplars lead us all.
12-Nov-2017 16:01:13
Dan: In thinking more on the following entry, only a quarter of the inner surface of a single twist M have a Bowtie Line; thus extending these lines to the outer side of the M surface equals half the sueface. So the question is "What pattern?" and "What amgles with the center point of the M?", and "which of these centerpoint lines extend to another point on M surface?": Dan: 22-Jul-2017 09:47:54 geometric discovery on Moebius Strips; a Moebius Geometry Theorem: All points on the inner surface of a Moebius have a Bow Tie Line. Inner surface = one can draw a straight line to the center of the Moebius. Passing through the center point is not required to generate a BTL.
16-Oct-2017 05:40:44
Dan: Burning Betty Zero Hedge August 29, 2017: Time for that good ol' GDP joke: "Two Keynesian economists, John Maynard Keynes and Paul Krugman, were walking down the street one day when they passed two large piles of dog (edited). Keynes said to Krugman, "I'll pay you $20,000 to eat one of those piles of (edited)." Krugman agrees and chooses one of the piles and eats it. Keynes pays him his $20,000. Then Krugman, feeling richer, says, "I'll pay you $20,000 to eat the other pile of (edited)." Keynes, feeling bad about the money he lost says okay, and eats the (edited). Krugman pays him the $20,000. They resume walking down the street. After a while, Krugman says, "You know, I don't feel very good. We both have the same amount of money as when we started. The only difference is we've both eaten (edited)." Keynes says: "Ah, but you're ignoring the fact that we've increased the GDP by $40,000." And as someone stated as a comment to this joke; "That is really all you need to know about GDP… it's all dog(edited)."
30-Aug-2017 01:33:09
Dan: a french writer remarked, American civilization has passe from barbarism to decadence without once knowing civilizatiom." ; Memoirs of a Superfluous Man
28-Aug-2017 08:27:52
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