Claims of Danger: Incontrovertible Proof E-Ts Are Contacting Earth With A Very Public Warning
Incontrovertible Proof E-Ts Are Contacting Earth With A Very Public Warning
Reported by Dan Alter, n1cl-1.
E-T Warning Confirms Theoretical Prediction
I am a scientist. I have sworn to tell the truth on this public record. I have a fearful prediction for the rest of you to confirm. At first, it was just a theoretical prediction, now it has been confirmed.
Most present scientists deny that our life forms are driven by objectively real spirits, and they also believe that Einstein's Relativity Theory shows there is no base "frame of reference" that tie all other personal "reference frames" together. As we will see, both assertions can be proven wrong.
Concerning spirits, the first objective proof is the demonstration that, in order to move our life forms, we spirits must create a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter that must eventually come home to roost, striking our Sun, and vaporizing Earth. Since a "Missing Earth" can be prevented, I am going to show you with conclusive published scientific evidence that this event is what the E-Ts are contacting us about.
It is a chilling four or five part message that includes two famous crop circles, the first was the "Barbary Castle" on July 17, 1991 that shows us how we are vaporized. It was followed exactly three years later by the Shoemaker-Levy comet that struck Jupiter on July 16, 1994(leap year). The remaining parts of the E-T's warning are one or possibly two not natural, "must be caused" asteroid conjunctions. We will know which possibility soon.
When the first conjunction shown in the 'Missing Earth" occurs on July 16, 2009, their will be a second conjunction on July 16, 2012 which decisively sums up the E-T's message.
Should the ME conjunction shown occur on July 16, 2012 we will not get a second conjunction and we will have to use other measurements to determine exactly when.
Confirming any of these conjunctions exist confirms the message and that it must be from E-Ts, since we can not move asteroids into conjunction.
It started in February 1991 with a thought experiment that I used to outline the hard edges of my theoretical prediction that for life forms to exist, objectively, scientifically measurable spirits must create them. This can only mean that all life bearing planets must create a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M). Like all debts, it must be repaid.
The experiment showed that our A-M debt must eventually hit our Sun, like every other life bearing planet that lives long enough. This massive sun explosion vaporizes the living planet in an absolutely unique manner. At the time, there was no reported objective scientific evidence for these unique sun explosions. Now there is, they are called Long Term Gamma Blasters. January 17, 1993 New York Times, science section. After I talked with the five astro-physicists mentioned in the article, I never saw the term mentioned in public again.
On February 10, 1992 while talking with Gerard Hawkins about his article "Geometric Harvest" in the February 1, 1992 Science News, I was shocked to realize that the SN cover picture almost exactly described my thought experiment. It was a picture of the first large complex circle, the Barbary Castle crop circle placed down on July 17, 1991 about 1:45 AM UT. Since it showed details of this explosion that could only be seen close up from space, i.e. not by us; then the picture had to be made by star traveling E-Ts.
The Barbary Castle was their first large complex circle. It not only showed us how, but also when our A-M debt would vaporize Earth. It clearly showed that the, "Earth is going to be vaporized in six or seven units of time". As I later learned, it was the first piece of the E-T's warning message, their thesis statement.
The later three or possibly four pieces of the E-T's warning message would show us the mass and forces involved, concluding with one or possibly two not natural, but must be caused asteroid conjunctions that show us exactly when we can prevent our extinction on July 16, 2012 at 10:57 UTC.
The E-T message contains a second crop circle, the "Missing Earth" crop circle which shows exactly where the first conjunction is on either July 16, 2009 or July 16. 2012.
The three outer solar system actions started with the Shoemaker-Levy comet which showed us the E-Ts unit of time, and then finished with these one or two "must be caused", or otherwise "could not occur" asteroid conjunction(s). I induced the existence of their possible second conjunction this July 17, 2009, and exactly where it was on August 29th. Prediction: With two Asteroid Conjunctions, they would occur exactly three Earth sidereal years apart. The nine o'clock on July 16, 2009 at 16:30:09 UT and either the 6 or 12 o'clock on July 16, 2012 at 10:57 UTC.
Predicting where any of these unnatural conjunctions occurs, is very clearly, a falsifiable prediction, the hallmark of doing "objective science".
All our astronomers need to do to publicly prove this scientific assertion is wrong is show that the few possible candidate asteroids are in their normal orbital positions. e.g. A brute force method is to verify that the 100 largest asteroids are all in their normal orbital positions. With modern telescopes and computers, this could probably be done very quickly.
Which three ASTRONOMERS will verify or disprove that there are Two impossible unless CAUSED Asteroid Conjunctions?
Once proven to exist then these two conjunctions will show us exactly WHEN to PREVENT our Sun from exploding. Only one means we will have to use another method to verify exactly when.
ASAP please and on the N1CL public record so we can verify their methods. Public warnings require Public verifications.
Read slowly, think clearly, your life and the life of everyone you know along with everything you love depends upon the people of Earth cooperating PUBLICLY over the next 1000 days.
Use the Q&A procedures below the prediction to clear up any questions any of you may have. Dan Alter n1cl-1.
Each conjunction exactly overlays one of the quarter axes vectors of our astronomical North Heliocentric calender/time coordinate system, i.e. our solar systems clock face. At your 9 and 6 o'clock vectors running out from the Sun at center. Our astronomers use a Heliocentric Sun view to track anything that orbits our Sun.[/b]
Sidereal = the exact time it takes for any orbiting body like Earth to complete one orbit. For example, when you jump in "one Earth sidereal year units" using a planetarium program picture of the solar system including the 100 largest asteroids, Earth and the Sun will stay on the same point in your planetarium picture while everything else moves around.
Both conjunctions were caused within the last 18 years, i.e. four orbits or less. By perturbing these normal asteroid orbits, the E-Ts prevent anyone from claiming the conjunctions were coincidences, while conclusively demonstrating they are trying to contact us.
Both were made from two pairs of asteroids picked from among the 65 shown in the Missing Earth crop circle. The E-Ts would pick from among the few asteroid pairs that required the least amount of force to put them into conjunction. Before perturbation, the normal orbital positions of each asteroid pair would be 'close' = probably within a +/- a few million kilometers of the vertical plane that intersects each of the 9 and 12 o'clock ecliptic vectors at 90 degrees. With the technology to apply force needed, it is almost trivially simple to cause these conjunctions somewhere on these vertical planes.
That means there are only one or two possible asteroid pairs for each axes' conjunction.
Euphrosyne is almost certainly the outer asteroid in the First Conjunction on 07-16-2009. My Redshift5 planetarium program shows an almost conjunction on July 16, 2009 at 16:30:09 UT, exactly 15 Earth sidereal years after the Shoemaker-Levy comet struck Jupiter on July 16, 1994 at 20:13 UT between Euphrosyne and xxxxx. The two asteroids straddle the left horizontal quarter axis of our astronomers time coordinate system, our nine on a clock.
The Second Conjunction on 07-16-2012 will exactly overlay the bottom vertical axis, the zero point, the 6 0'clock(less likely 12 0'clock) of our astronomical time coordinate system. The outer asteroid is xxx, yyy km in diameter (at this distance) from the Sun. The inner asteroid is xxx, yyy km in diameter (at this distance) from the Sun.
Each conjunction uses two of 65 asteroids that rank inclusively in size from the largest, Euphrosyne at 255.9 km, down to (don't know smallest name yet). Our astronomers can determine using "The Missing Earth asteroid diameter and orbital radius calculator"" shown in the Missing Earth circle.). URL to explanation.
Why use our left & top horizontal axes of our astronomical time coordinate system to show us when?
So the E-Ts can show us "objectively" the exact time our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M) will appear on Earth's orbit. We need the exact time to the micro-second. "Objectively" means we have to agree that the E-Ts publicly showed us where and when the conjunction asteroids are located with our clock, not theirs.
Our astronomical time co-ordinate system uses an arbitrary fixed point on Earth's orbit to measure time from. This zero point, the "start counting time from here" point, is required to measure the time, motion, and positions of orbiting bodies with respect to each other from where we sit. In our case, the Greenwich meridian.
How to see that the 2009 conjunction overlaps our North Heliocentric 9 o'clock axis?
The conjunction on July 16, 2009 is shown in the The "Missing Earth" crop circle. It shows the solar system out to a group 65 asteroids in perfect proportion. The positions of the remaining three planets in the Missing Earth" are July 17, 2003, exactly 12 sidereal years after the Barbary Castle hit the ground. I used RedShift5, a standard planetarium program's North heliocentric point of view, where the planets and asteroids are orbiting counter clockwise.
When you lay a picture of the Missing Earth over the planetarium program screen picture for July 17, 2003 and match up positions of the remaining three planets between the two pictures, then the first conjunction on July 16, 2009 shown in the Missing Earth lines up right over the 'left horizontal axis' of my Redshift5 planetarium program. That surprised me too.
The Missing Earth crop circle has two sidereal anniversary July 16/17 dates in it, July 17, 2003 as shown by the positions of the remaining three planets; and July 16, 2009 as shown by the positions of the 65 asteroids.
The six year difference in dates is used to show us the force of the explosion upon the Sun, which is pushed about 40 million miles towards Mercury's orbit.
Leap years explain the date discrepancy between the July 16 & 17th dates.
Why Are The E-Ts PUBLICLY Warning Us with Public pictographs and Public outer solar system actions Without Going Through Our Leaders?
Public = So all of us can potentially see the evidence.
This is clearly a danger to all, yet the E-Ts have not told our leaders. This is a very old, polished from many repetitions warning ritual. They know "pre-civilized" planet's leaders can not be trusted to warn their citizens. Our leaders have not disappointed them. The E-Ts know our leaders can not be trusted to warn us publicly in time, because they have been doing business with them privately for a long time.
Why are the E-Ts giving Earth and us this public opportunity by Showing Us WHEN We Can PREVENT Our Sun From Exploding On July 16, 2012, but NOT helping us directly?
They love life as do we; but from what I am sure is bitter experience, they know that letting a people that has not agreed to practice No First Cost towards one another, i.e. not strike another planet first, loose upon the stars with FTL travel and H-bombs is a recipe for having their home planets devastated. Look at the USA right now. We certainly like to tell other people what to do at the point of a gun.
So they set up an IQ test, has someone(s) on the planet figured out that we must have a conservation debt and why? Next can he(they) cause the rest of the planet's people to take the warning seriously, so we can co-operate in public to do What Must Be Done, including figuring out how to go FTL at least within our solar system(the method is patentable).
In short, they insist we grow up and actually become civilized, or die.
[size=16]A comforting observation. The fact our universe has grown to be this large proves that many someones like myself have caused these 'disconnections' before. Two twist Moebius Strips when cut down the middle, double in size, cut again they split in two while staying linked through each other. This can be done to infinity.
Two Conditions
Some of our political leaders and scientists will want to contact me in private initially. That is normal and necessary where we are agreeing on how to proceed in a public matter using the N1CL, but the upshot of these discussions will be to meet these two conditions:
1. Material Questions from our political leaders about A-M debt and what must be done to stop 'it' will be made through the N1CL Q&A procedures. So will any agreements with me. This is a Public matter. Too many lives are at stake. Everyone dies should we not succeed, and 100's of millions unnecessarily when the disconnection is not done properly.
Ergo, directing and organizing our disconnection will be done in public, so everyone can consciously and freely co-operate in what must be done.
2. Our leaders must meet the requirements described in the box below Q&A procedures for our disconnection to succeed. In a tight spot there can be only one captain, that is self-evident.
1. Do the E-Ts want to help us? The short answer is yes, they have well warned us, and a real warning is a friendly action. Plus I have concluded this is not just a warning ritual by them, but an E-T ritual designed to wake us up, so we can smell the ethical roses.
2. Ergo, we do not know how to "objectively" measure right and wrong behavior in a society based upon exchange(XC); thus we and our leaders are behaving unethically out of ignorance.
3. Discovery leads to self-awareness leads to teaching wise actions. Awaken them.
4. The Objective Measure Of The General Welfare is "How much time and money you save(make) other people, those equals you XC with.". Deliberately profiting by costing another is theft. We all only have one unit of time alive per unit time as measured by c, the speed of light.In a conserved universe. Unless we 'Spirits' consciously use our Life Forms to save each other time, life becomes impossible on a planet.
5. Thus, "No 1st Cost" must be the premise by which honest life loving spirits treat other life forms.
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FIRST WARNING & COMPLAINT stays Until Public Response On N1CL Public Record by USA President.
Scientist COMPLAINS Our Political Leaders & Scientists are IGNORING WARNING of Preventable Sun EXPLOSION on JULY 16, 2012
SECOND QUESTION "Why won't any of our elected leaders ask about a scientifically verifiable warning about a certain cataclysmic danger to all?".
Why is simple. They are all charter members of our Three Monkey Society(3MS) Leadership. They never ask, "How do my actions or inactions cost others(you)?.
I can scientifically prove why NOT enforcing our laws on leaders; always massively reduces our wealth and collective time alive. Our leaders will kill us all unless we make them act.
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Our first public question: Must I, Dan alter, withhold information needed to prevent our conservation debt of Anti-Matter from striking the Sun on July 16, 2012, unless we publicly show by deed that we have become Lawfully civilized???
It is an ethical question that I can not set aside. I have been working on the warning for 18 years and assumed that saving Earth and us was a given. But now I can not so assume. Since I am not the only one involved, the rest of you must help me decide. While it is not 100% certain that my knowledge of how to disconnect our A-M debt is crucial, it is very probable it is.
Why the ethical question? Right now we live on a planet that does not demand its leaders or its citizens speak the truth in public. We are a Three Monkey Society(3MS). Totally unethical in our public dealings with each other. That has bad consequences.
As history and the existence of our present 3MS leaders show, corrupt and psychopathic people will inevitably take over a society of "unconscious own time cost minimizers". Enforcing accountability costs time and is disagreeable. Unconscious own cost minimization means we citizens do not understand the consequences of letting our 3MS leaders borrow to cover up their crimes. Inevitably compound interest ensures the accumulated debt ends in an almost instantaneous Catastrophic Financial Collapse.
When a planet uses floating exchange rates to trade debt backed currencies as Earth does, then NOT agreeing in public on how debts must be handled inevitably leads to a devastating and very abrupt financial collapse. Not only have we not agreed on how to handle debts(we make the lender swallow the bad debt in public as soon as we find out); but worse, we citizens are letting our leaders get away with the worst crime of all which is, "sworn leaders seeing, hearing, and speaking no evil about other leaders mistakes, crimes, and public lies". Without us enforcing immediate accountability, 3MS leaders have, are, and will continue borrowing more of our money to cover up their crimes.
My own backyard first, the USA.
Clearly America's citizens believe in a free lunch because they will not pay the price of eliminating bad debts from our financial system. This denial starts with not holding our elected leaders strictly accountable.
Without learning from immediate pain, ordinary citizens ignore obvious evidence of the worst crime of all:letting any sworn leader get away with covering up and ignoring crimes committed by another sworn leader. As history shows, ignoring this crime always condemns those societies to depression, war, and mass suffering. Since there are many more ordinary citizens than 3MS leaders in a democracy, there is a simple way to stop these results, demand our elected leaders start enforcing legal accountability upon our leaders pronto.
"Objective facts" are eyewitness measurements and observations that are confirmed by other honest reporters. Thus "Objective facts" can only be created by two or more honest people. Since science is for all of us, this must mean negative or positive public feedback from anyone who sees "logical and observational discrepancies" in any scientist's public assertions. How else can our reports and theories be confirmed, improved, or disproved?
I, Dan Alter, made a fundamental scientific discovery in 1985. What "objective" measure of value that we spirits/souls all must and do use to keep our life forms alive. Presently here on Earth, almost always unconsciously. How to measure personal value and thus the common good. We unconsciously value(logically order) any piece of information we perceive through this measure. Thus knowing consciously what it is and how we use it must serve as the 'objective' causal premise for a scientific Grand Unification Theory.
It is a measure that by construction, assumes a conserved universe: One unit of time per unit of time alive, and no take backs.
In a conserved universe, we spirits must create a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter to keep our life forms alive. The only two questions that matter now are: 'when does the debt came due?', and 'can we disconnect from it?'. The answer to doing a disconnection is, of course, yes. God always gives us a final out. But doing a disconnection means I must show us how to go faster than light(FTL). Should my prediction of how to do FTL be true, then it is simple to do and within our technological capabilities.
Which takes me back to my ethical question, "Must I withhold this crucial information?" for this reason. By the common measure of value we all use, Earth's human society is, by inspection, a fundamentally dishonest, immoral, murderous, and criminal Three Monkey Society(3MS) led by quintessentially 3MS leaders.
3MS leaders are the inevitable result of NOT having a real public place to question and challenge one another about our public speech and related deeds. 3MS leaders are now found in every area of public endeavor, especially the sciences. Climate-gate is an obvious result.
The methods of our 3MS leaders and their supporters are simple. They suppress dissent by first ignoring criticisms and questions from citizens who feel, see, and can witness their hurtful actions = the Big Ignore. Push further and they call you names instead of answering = Attack the Messenger. They always hide and distort critically needed public information to evade public accountability for their mistakes and crimes = the Cover-Up. Though ostensibly elected and sworn to serve all; they think and act like a corrupt aristocracy.
Finally, they lie constantly and get away with it with the Big Ignore. Thus we require a safe public place where our information and charges can be verified by questions from anyone and confirmed by other witnesses.
The remedy is the No 1st Cost List. It is the only way we can use the internet to create a planet-wide public place that treats all of us as equals. Anybody can be a member. You have complete free speech about politics, science, the arts, to sell or solicit anything legal, and of course, especially to report lies and crimes done by sworn leaders or businesses. Above all, the N1CL is where honest citizens can work together as equals to solve our common problems, beginning with democratically, legally, and swiftly removing the 3MS leaders that we let govern us now.
One of the N1CL's highest services is to Objectively Verify or Disprove warnings of danger to Earth or anybody on Earth.
This verification of our danger and the subsequent disconnection must be done in front of all. We face a public danger, and so we must join together in public to face our common danger as a consciously just society. We can not let our present 3MS leaders ignore this warning to our death.
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I am a scientist. I have sworn to tell the truth on this public record.
I have a fearful prediction for the rest of you to confirm. At first, it was just a theoretical prediction with no objective evidence supporting it; but since 1992, a series of published scientific reports have verified every single causal link in the underlying theory, and now we there is a way to conclusively confirm the theories' ultimate conclusion.
For life to exist on a planet, we objectively real spirits must create a planetary conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M) when we make our life forms move. Our spirits put our A-M debt onto the other side of our Moebius Strip Geometry Universe. Eventually a planet's conservation debt comes back to Earth striking our Sun, or it must be consciously disconnected. Our public choice.
Most present scientists deny that our life forms are driven by objectively real spirits, and they also believe that Einstein's Relativity Theory shows there is no base "frame of reference" that tie all other personal "reference frames" together. As we will see, both assertions are proven wrong when it is shown that we have an A-M conservation debt.
The crucial piece of proof that we are, in fact spirits, is that the E-Ts warning message shows exactly how our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter strikes our Sun, vaporizing Earth, leaving an Afterglow of expanding cooling gases. These afterglows were first seen by the Hubble after a 1997 Long Term Gamma Blaster(LTGB). Now we have seen many more afterglows after a LTGB occurs = vaporized life bearing planets.
The E-T public warning is a chilling four or five part message that includes two famous crop circles. The first was the "Barbary Castle" placed down on July 17, 1991 at 1:45 AM UTC that shows us how we are vaporized and the 'afterglow' that follows. It was followed exactly to the minute three years later by the Shoemaker-Levy comet that struck Jupiter on July 16, 1994(leap year) at 20:13 PM UTC. The third part of the E-T warning was the 'Missing Earth" crop circle On June 26, 1995 showing an asteroid conjunction.
The remaining parts of the E-T's warning message are one or probably two asteroid conjunction(s)' that can not occur naturally' = "must be caused by someones not from Earth". We will know which possibility after our astronomers look.
Read carefully, think, consider carefully, then act. Everyone's life depends upon our acting consciously and swiftly in public.
Predicted Conjunction(s)
When the asteroid conjunction shown in the 'Missing Earth" occurs on July 16, 2009, there will be a second conjunction on July 16, 2012 which decisively sums up the E-T's message.
Should the asteroid conjunction occur on July 16, 2012, then we will not get a second conjunction, and we will have to use other measurements to determine exactly when.
Confirming that one or both of these 'must be caused' asteroid conjunctions exists confirms that the message must be from E-Ts, since we Earthlings can not move asteroids into conjunction. Read More.
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Dan: Thr stock market did the strangest price/volume action I have ever seen. Only a 45 pt DJ trading range while staying between 7-8 up to 7-8 down on the print. A knocked flat line that held -7 until less than 5 minutes to close, then finished down in a rush at -13 plus. 09-Mar-2010 05:31:44
Dan: The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once. Albert Einstein 08-Mar-2010 08:33:43
Dan: "In matters of truth and justice, there is no difference between large and small problems, for issues concerning the treatment of people are all the same." Albert Einstein 08-Mar-2010 07:18:29
Dan: My God Three Monkey Society(3MS) leaders are predictable. The "Hurt Locker" wins best picture. They hate Avatar's message that "we are brutish life destroying exploiters.". Three Monkey Society leaders are just that, brutal life destroying exploiters, and they own the major media lock, stock, and barrel. As the Ice Save vote in Iceland shows, over 98% of us do not want to be forced to pay off someone elses fraudulent stupid loan, most especially crooked loans made by corporations and banks run by 3MS leaders. What they are doing is in your face stealing of innocent people's money and livelihoods, nay they by ignoring and lying, steal any possibility of a civilization based upon equal application of our laws against stealing. The best you can say about a free citizen of a democracy that would put up with that is, not very bright. 08-Mar-2010 06:56:23
Dan: Describing our situation winds up forcing me to look very carefully at myself. As usual, I am at my margin of incompetence. 07-Mar-2010 02:19:56
Dan: Crash looks imminent, could be key reversal day tomorrow. The smaller aAsian countries are raising interest rates. China has reaised resrve requirements and sold dollars, both massively deflationary. Whose currency will hold? 01-Mar-2010 06:26:33
Dan: The certain objective implication of what Goedel proved: Niall Ferguson at Information Clearing House.info in 'Empires On The Edge Of Chaos', "Some theorists of complexity would go so far as to say that complex systems are wholly nondeterministic, meaning that it is impossible to make predictions about their future behavior based on existing data.". xxxx What Ferguson said implies saying this, 'I(we) don't know what causes these collapses.'. As Goedel proved, then we need to objectively = by deed change and/or add to our "theoretical description" to eliminate the unexplained. Discovering the needed 'objective logical premise and/or changes' describes exactly what scientists have to do to achieve the objective public purpose of science: To create a theory(logical structure organized by objective cause and effect) that ultimately makes perfect objective predictions. Perfection being what it is, we won't run our of work, and it can pay well. 01-Mar-2010 03:03:07
Dan: The question for our elected representatives is simple: Why are we borrowing money to buy what is known to be BAD Paper? Why am I being ask to pay off a private party or business or governments Stupid loan. We will bankrupt ourselves and our children and destroy this countru unless we make our elected representatives stop this criminal activity now. 28-Feb-2010 03:32:06
Dan: No way I can let us die without a try. But I can not give FTL to our 3MS leaders, put in hands of privae interests means you can not trust them to not try to save themselves and leave the rest of us in the lurch. Help, I need help so lets ask for it. Besides, I don't have the eq. finished, but I do have its symbols and its form. 24-Feb-2010 23:09:43
Dan: Anyway you slice the E-T warning message: Either they don't know how to do a disconnect; or they do know how. But out of necessity, and morality arises directly from necessity; in either case, a Three Monkey Society(3MS) can not be let loose upon other life bearing planets. The reason is clear why the E-Ts would not under any circumstances show us how to do FTL. 3MS leaders will save themselves, not us. They always put themselves first. The solution is obvious, end our 3MS. Do the do, we must set an example, George is perfect. I, you, the E-Ts want Earth to live, but not as vicious predators. 22-Feb-2010 07:25:04
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