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Affecting Earth How & Why We Can Stop Anti-Matter(A-M) Debt From Exploding Sun
How & Why We Can Stop Anti-Matter(A-M) Debt From Exploding Sun

We are still in beta, our Q&A module is a bug fix away from being loaded, but fire away, the present forums will work for questions. by Dan Alter n1cl-1 12-1-2008

How is simple. Eye witnesses report that the USA government has tested one or more captured E-T "blink ships". (They disappear and instantly reappear less than a mile away.) I have witnessed this behavior myself on a ABC news video taken over France at 25,000 feet in 1975. Many repeated 'blink jumps' over 3-4 minutes. Amazing video.) An effect my base theory says must occur when any object drops to zero with respect to c on the surface of our Moebius geometry universe. The actual 'automatic' distance traveled can be predicted once you deduce our universes diameter. All we have to do is drop one of these "blink ships" down to zero c on the point on Earth's surface as it passes through the 'wormhole opening' between 150' to 180' inside Earth's exact center line orbit on this coming January 15th. With a specific measurement we could deduce how much wider the opening is.



Thus when a ship or any other object goes zero c in a 'wormhole mouth' connected to an A-M conservation debt; then it is taken very quickly to the A-M debt. When plus and minus matter strike one another, they instantly explode converting all their mass into energy. Since this ship is made of 'plus matter', when it strikes our A-M debt it explodes with massive force, accelerating our A-M debt which prevents it from dropping to 'zero c' over the other mouth of the wormhole on July 16, 2009. Now it can not come through to strike our Sun. Lets hope theory and practice coincide.

Exactly where on Earth's orbit is the 'wormhole opening'? It always stays in a fixed location on Earth's orbit. The Earth orbits over it once a year. We can deduce its exact location from the date/time of Gamma Ray beam impact shown by the conjunction of two asteroids in the Missing Earth crop circle and then answering this question: "Where is the point on Earth's orbit that gives the Minimal Time for a ball of frozen A-M Hydrogen moving at .5 c from Earth's orbit, striking Sun, sending out a laser of Gamma Rays that decelerates A-M ball to zero velocity at center of the Sun, while the Ray reaches out to strike Earth at the time shown by the asteroid conjunction?". The Mass of A-M Ball = the Q of frozen A-M hydrogen explosively combined with an equal amount of Plus matter needed to accelerate our by Sun .3 kms. The Ray stays fixed on the Earth as the A-M Ball's impact face always rotates to constantly face Earth.

With a navigable zero c ship, we may be able to do this after this January 15, 2009 for up to three months as we could jump to the 'fixed position' of the wormhole opening and drop it down the hole. (5-23-2009) Now we have to wait until last possible second. We get a last chance. In fact, upon reflection, it may have always been our only real chance because at the last possible second, there are no curves in the 'wormhole'. The best part about the 'last second' is that everything gets real simple and clear cut.

Simple, cheap, and easy. It will work or it won't; but it is a lot better than the certain fate the E-Ts predict with their Missing Earth crop circle.

Our leaders certainly know of this prediction. Why they keep secret captured and crash recovered E-T technology and the reverse engineered technology they have developed to themselves is an interesting question. One hopes they are not thinking of leaving us in the lurch. That might not be a good idea for them. I suspect they do not know some of the necessary constraints on FTL interstellar travel. Among them, a limit on how far our life forms can be from their home suns before their spirits detach from their bodies without an artificial A-M debt. I suspect around Jupiter's orbit, but we can confirm that with tests. Hmm, did the E-Ts that some of the 400 plus Disclosure Project sworn govt eye witnesses say that our military has been seen talking to, not tell us of that constraint?


Biggest Roadblocks To A Prevention Try.

Our Establishment Leaders. They think their first job is to ignore any information that would threaten their position at the top of our societies Pecking Order, i.e. the Big Ignore. My scientific discoveries and the N1CL Q&A Procedures blow up the present scientific and political establishments justifications for their present blind self-serving "keep us in power at any costs" behavior.

Since our A-M conservation debt is "technically" simple to stop, all we have to do is make our leaders and most of you accept, or at least admit the possibility of a scientific discovery that overturns our present scientific and political paradigms. Perhaps facing a real possibility of their death can change our leaders minds.

Our establishment scientists will have to publicly admit the probability that we are objectively real SPIRITS before I die or they will fry. Given past scientific history regarding giving recognition for new discoveries, I think they probably prefer death.

Spirits have been rumored to exist before. They do. All major religions postulate that all life forms have a soul = spirit that animates them = moves our bodies and lives on after death in some form. Thus, the religious among you should like my discovery. However, it seems that no one really likes the idea, not one question from a stranger so far, as this prediction has been on the N1CL front page for over three years and over 300,000 hits, plus I have personally told many thousands more about this scientific prediction.

I do know that end of the world predictions are a dime a dozen, so you and our leaders ignore them. Mine is different. It is based upon a real theory, confirmed by real scientifically published observations, and above all, we may be able to prevent it easily and simply with the E-T technology the USA govt keeps secret from us. The Disclosure Project has over 400 sworn govt witnesses who have sworn, and will swear again to Congress that our government has had interactions with E-Ts and possesses some of their technology. As you can see by the countdown clock below, we have very little time left to act. It is cheap insurance for we citizens to force our leaders to disclose what they know FAST. A Poker Story: When To Take Insurance.

How I discovered that we have a conservation debt began with a mistaken answer to a question of Liability raised by Ronald Coase(Nobel in Economics 1991) in "The Problem of Social Cost" Journal of Law & Economics, October 1960. What he received the Nobel for. In 1984 I demonstrated why he made an obvious analytical error and reached the wrong conclusion in Coase's Theorem, Politics, and Scientific Publication. His answer was very controversial because it implied we could relax Liability for causing a cost to others and not decrease the Q of G&S XCed.

11-28-2008 In 1984, as a result of refuting Coase's Theorem, I discovered what Rule of Liability a society that uses "money to buy Goods & Services(G&S) from each other"(that's us folks) must enforce to maximize the Quantity(Q) of G&S Exchanged(XCed) = real wealth = more time alive. The law is Strict Liability. That means we hold each party to an XC Liable for the Time their part in an exchange costs others. Simple, you are responsible for the costs of producing your half of an XC, I pay for the costs my side causes. We are free to engage in Paid XC. In conclusion, it is necessary for us to consciously enforce this Law to remain alive on a spaceship = Earth; because Striking First in an XC based society always reduces the Quantity(Q) of G&S Exchanged(XCed) = less of us alive.

Proving why relaxing Liability always decreased the Q of G&S XCed led me inexorably to a theoretical prediction in 1991; that we life forms could not exist in a conserved universe, unless we created a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M). There is only one geometry that permits the creation of our A-M debt = a Moebius Strip geometry universe. With this geometry, we 'spirits' can put our A-M debt right on the other side of our Moebius universe's surface, which is as far in the future as possible. However, it does not stay there, as a conserved A-M debt meant that it eventually must come home to roost. The Sun is on its path back and Boom, Earth is vaporized and WE all fry. Initially it was a "thought experiment" in February 1991, a theoretical conclusion with no evidence of any kind. A year later that changed.

On February 10, 1992, from a completely unexpected source, a picture on the cover of the February 1, 1991 Science News and its related article "Geometric Harvest". Together, they were conclusive confirmation that my theoretical 'thought experiment' was true, and about to happen to us in six units of time. Within three days I deduced that in theory, at least, it is possible, even easy to stop, once you understand how it works. So in 1992 we started trying to warn the rest of you.

This conclusive evidence was a warning from our E-T visitors. After the Barbary Castle crop circle showed the Earth being vaporized, just shy of four years later on June 25, 1995 the E-Ts put down a crop circle showing us the results of the A-M debt caused Sun explosion. It was the Missing Earth crop circle. It speaks for itself and it tells us exactly when by using the conjunction of two of the 65 asteroids shown in it. The date is July 16, 2009, exactly eighteen sidereal Earth years after the Barbary Castle was placed down.

Since the evidence for E-Ts visiting us is overwhelming, and even more overwhelming is the evidence that the US government is trying to cover-up the fact we are being visited; please, please take this warning seriously. If my disconnection method is correct, then disconnecting from our A-M debt is trivially simple. All we need is a piece of technology that the US government has captured from the E-Ts, i.e. one of more of their ships that witnesses from the Disclosure Project and elsewhere say our govt has. In short, lets pray they have a captured E-T ship just like in the movie Independence Day.

Our leaders know we are being visited by E-Ts as they have ordered them to be shot down. Despite our hostile actions towards them; the E-Ts have not shot back at us, they just go away fast. Instead very nicely, they have tangibly and very publicly confirmed we have a conservation debt and when it will strike with the Missing Earth crop circle. So what are our leaders and many of you afraid of? The fact that E-Ts are visiting us means we are not alone in the universe. Since they act peacefully, that sounds like good news to me. A nice side benefit of saving Earth, we get star travel. I explain how FTL travel is possible elsewhere on this site.

My explanation for your fears is that our leaders work at making you fearful, probably because they are fearful; but some leaders want you to be, above all, an unconscious member of a Three Monkey Society. Wake up my fellow citizens, the chances of me being wrong about this are very low. Every single theoretical causal link has been confirmed by reports in our scientific literature. So read, question, and then act by contacting your Congress person. Use the directions given by the Disclosure Project on contacting your elected representatives; or you can start by sending this URL to your Congress person and anyone else you know and say "Make Bush administration Release E-T secrets NOW!". Here is a list of congresspeople. Contact Congress. Be quick, time is running out.


We initially invented the No 1st Cost List to find out who can be trusted to tell the truth in Public. I know that the vast majority of us want to be honest. How is simple; join with us and Register as Full Members by Agreeing to the public agreements in the box just below. Then we can begin to create the greatest civic gift of all, trustworthy public information. By doing so, you also create for yourself your most valuable public asset, a good public reputation. In addition, together we can save our planet from being vaporized.

How we prevent this Sun explosion is explained in the article reached by clicking on the Great News headline, or the article starts a little below. Our accelerating financial collapse and our almost due conservation debt made of Anti-matter(A-M), are the logical result of not acknowledging that life, like unpaid debts, have necessary costs that are always paid by someone in the end. Please join us in helping to spread this warning, and in making our leaders take the very simple preventative action in time. Ask your questions inside.


My exposition is not perfect, but with questions I will adjust.
Just below is the 'Front Page' from a few months ago. I think it is pretty clear; but no questions; so my wife said I was being to blunt, and we needed to separate 'Home Operations" from the 'News". I still like it a lot.


Time Remaining To Do Simple Prevention !!!!

Scientist WARNS: Unless Prevented on January 15, 2009; Sun to EXPLODE on July 16, 2009 after being Struck by Our Conservation Debt made of Anti-Matter.

Prevention is simple.

Fundamental theory confirms the very explicit, exact time warnings by the E-Ts, that Our Sun Will Explode ON July 16, 2009. The USA govt has captured the FTL(Faster Than Light) E-T ship(s) required to stop this. I have made the basic math discoveries needed to navigate these ships at FTL to blow up our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M).

Our leaders have ignored this public warning to prevent our sun from exploding for over two years. Unless we force them to carry out their sworn duty to enforce our laws, our political leaders will not release the E-T technology they are keeping secret. Therefore we as a people must band together to demand this:

We demand that Obama, McCain, Pelosi and Reid see to it that Congress holds IMMEDIATE hearings to force the Bush Administration to release the E-T ships and knowledge the USA govt is keeping secret.

Another huge benefit: No democracy nor any people who claim to be civilized can long survive; unless we citizens have a central place to report about and question our elected representatives when they do NOT ruthlessly enforce our laws upon themselves. It is called the No 1st Cost List.

Fundamental Scientific News Einstein wrongly concluded There is no fundamental frame of reference common to all observers. This "Test" shows why and how we can use 'c', the speed of light, as a base frame of reference to describe our location and speed in the universe. This means we can drop to zero speed with respect to 'c', which drops us between the two sides of our Moebius universe's surface. This ability combined with knowing how to navagate in a Moebius Universe will enable us to use the E-T ships our government has to stop the Sun from exploding.

See Einstein Article Inside.
Dan Alter n1cl-1

How do we stop Sun Explosion?



What are our alternatives?





Inaction is the only loser.



Why we will need another life bearing planet to colonize soon.
Make the USA government release the E-T ships and knowledge it now keeps secret so we can drop one or more ships moving at zero "c", down a "wormhole", as the Earth crosses over it next January 15th. USA does have these ships. Disclosure Project
Where explains how and why we can travel FTL

There are four possibilities:
1. I am right about A-M conservation debt: Do nothing and all fry next July 15th, for sure.
2. I am wrong about Sun explosion, but we do NOT make the USA govt release the E-T technology they are keeping secret. Result: Same corrupt secret government, NO FTL star travel, NO insurance colony around another sun, NO access to the almost limitless energy and mineral resources in space.
3. I am wrong, but we force US government to release their E-T ships and knowledge. We get Faster Than Light star travel and its benefits.
4. I am right: We force our governments to release E-T ships before January 15, 2009 and we save Earth and enjoy FTL star travel; or we can at least, all die trying. No fate but what we make.

Can anybody give me a rational reason why we would not take this simple precaution? Doing nothing is the only alternative we lose on for sure. Dan Alter n1cl-1

What is required to stop our Sun from exploding?
Why We Need & Where another life bearing planet may be.






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Question & Answer procedures are installed; now debugging. Front Page Version 9-21-09 to ???

The No 1st Cost List(N1CL) Public internet interface creates the only way we can peacefully eliminate the Three Monkey Society leaders that govern us now. We can not afford their lies and bad information anymore.

One thing we know for sure about anyones true statements, the facts contained within or implied are accurate.

The question becomes: How do we quickly verify what people say in public is true? That was impossible without the internet. It is required to create a real public place = where everyone can meet simultaneously to hear and question what anyone says in public.

By inspection, questions and disagreements with what you, me, or anyone else says in public are the only actions common to anything anyone can say on a public record.

First requirement: Anyone can question and ask.

The second requirement, an agreement to answer: A list of people, businesses, governments, etc who will agree to answer questions from anyone about what they say on the N1CL public record, using Question & Answer Dialogue Procedures that treat both parties impartially. Doing this creates a real public place for Earth.

With the N1CL we can create accurate objective information for all, and a society of equals before our Laws actually becomes possible.

Enormous personal benefit: It is single place on Earth where you can show everyone you stand behind what you say. In short, prove your honesty to all.




The inventor speaks first. My name is Dan Alter n1cl-1, I am a scientist and I had publication of the fundamental political/economic discovery blocked, so my wife and I invented the N1CL. Why Coase's Theorem is Wrong, Politics, and Scientific Publication Since science is for all of us, that must mean anyone can question a scientist's public assertions. Now that the N1CL is invented, I assert you can not claim to be a scientist and not be a member of the N1CL.




A thought experiment leads to a Warning about a Preventable catastrophic danger to Earth.

In February 1991 I theoretically predicted that when spirits create and move life forms by splitting base molecules into plus and minus halves, they must put the Anti-Matter half on the other side/surface of our Moebius geometry universe. Eventually our conservation debt comes back striking our Sun, Kaboom. It was just a deductive thought experiment, I had no evidence of any kind.

On February 10, 1992 in a February 1, 1992 Science News article "Geometric Harvest" by Gerard Hawkins, I saw objective evidence that absolutely confirmed my theoretical prediction. It was a picture of Earth being vaporized that could only have been drawn by someones who had seen these events up close from space. Ergo, E-Ts not us. It was the first large complex crop circle, the Barbary Castle.

It was extraordinarily disconcerting. It took me three days to deduce there must be an out, a way to prevent Earth from being vaporized.

Since it can be prevented, I have been warning you ever since.



Last December after seeing Avatar, I finally realized that I was faced with a terrible ethical question. It was the answer to a question that had bothered me from the beginning about the E-T warning ritual. There warning was absolutely minimal. "Why would they want us to die without a try?" They were life lovers too, they did business here without bothering us?


The answer is unfortunately obvious. It was because we are a Three Monkey Society(3MS), which makes us criminally insane. Clearly with FTL, we would do to them what we did to the North and South American Indians. Given the simple means of doing faster than light(FTL) star travel, turning a 3MS loose with FTL travel would literally mean other non 3MS FTL planetary societies would be committing suicide. (Yes I can prove how the E-Ts do FTL, and it does not violate going faster than light over the surface of our Moebius Strip Geometry universe.)

My ethical duty is to maximize life and not just here on Earth. I will not help us destroy another life bearing planet, so how do we, I, resolve this dilemma. What is our out?

My ethical dilemma is also the E-Ts, they love life too. For sure, we would not listen to them telling us to stop being bad. Yet clearly E-T societies grow up to be NOT 3MSs, or we would be exploited by these FTL E-T societies visiting us.

Ergo, they gave us this oh so graphic warning showing us exactly when on July 16, 2012 because someone like me can possibly figure out our situation in time and help cause we the people of Earth to reform. That must mean the E-Ts will help should we decide to Wake UP.

We must have their help now, we need two working interplanetary FTL ships and it is probably too late to build them ourselves, and I will not show us how to do FTL unless we do reform.


THEREFORE, the only way I or the E-Ts can ethically help disconnect our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M) is for Earth's citizens to show by ELECTIONS that we have ended being a Three Monkey Society.

Unless we stop our 3MS leaders in public where the E-Ts can see it, they will not help us. Fortunately, democracies have frequent elections, primaries now (incumbents are being thrown out as I write this), and culminating this November in the USA. The E-Ts have most graphically warned us about what will happen and when, and they are just as bound by this moral duty to protect and grow life as myself. We can save Earth. Wake up!


The second public purpose of the N1CL, and arguably its biggest benefit, is to stop forevermore our sworn leaders from committing the most heinous crime possible in any democracy: When any sworn leader ignores, tolerates, covers-up, or helps any other sworn leader commit a felony.

Here's how to stop you and our elected and sworn leaders from being unconscious members of a url=http://www.no1stcostlist.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=121.html]Three Monkey Society[/url](3MS).

Our 1st Public Question by Dan Alter April 4, 2010


Which of our elected, other sworn leaders, and above all, any and all honest citizens will swear on a public N1CL list(url here) that you will see to it that any and all felony criminal allegations about any sworn leader are scrupulously investigated immediately, so that when found true, we can prosecute to the fullest extent this second worst crime in a democracy, so we can prevent the worst crime, a sworn leader helping another sworn leader commit a felony?

This monstrous crime can only exist when ordinary citizens are ignorant of their fundamental civic duty, to see to it that any sworn leader who covers up or helps another sworn leader commit a felony is mercilessly prosecuted. Not a sniff of suspicion goes uninvestigated.

We do this now or Earth and you and me and everyone dies on July 16, 2012.



How N1CL works

Anyone can post a Public Warning or say Yes?No about anything, but they must agree that they will answer questions from anyone only about their Yes/No.

N1CL members agree to answer questions about anything they post onto the public record of the No 1st Cost List.

Anything posted to the non member forums are not subject to questions, unless you want to answer one.

Using the N1CL, by inspection, is a job requirement for anyone who claims to be a scientist as science is for all by definition.

The Question & Answer procedures treat both sides of a public dialogue impartially.

Your private life and former sins are of none of our business here, just what you say on the N1CL record matters. Here any of us can test and verify by questioning what you say to all, so everyone on Earth can rely upon your information.



Consequences of no real public place to question and disagree.

As history and the existence of our present 3MS leaders show, corrupt and psychopathic people will inevitably take over a society of "unconscious own time cost minimizers". Enforcing accountability costs time and is disagreeable.

Unconscious own cost minimization means we citizens do not understand the consequences of letting our 3MS leaders borrow to cover up their crimes. Inevitably compound interest ensures the accumulated bad debts end in an almost instantaneous Catastrophic Financial Collapse.

This abrupt collapse only becomes possible after a planet evolves floating exchange rates to trade debt backed currencies as Earth now does. 3MS leaders will NOT agree in public on how debts must be handled(we make the lender swallow the bad debt in public as soon as we find out, especially big loans).

Not only have we as a civilization not agreed on how to handle debts; but worse, we citizens are letting our leaders get away with the worst crime of all which is, "sworn leaders seeing, hearing, and speaking no evil about other leaders mistakes, crimes, and public lies".

Since we citizens have not experienced the consequences on NOT enforcing immediate accountability upon our 3MS leaders, we are going to feel a pain in a very sensitive part of our anatomy, our wallets.

My own backyard first, the USA.

Clearly America's 3MS leaders and most citizens believe in a free lunch because they will not pay the price of eliminating bad debts from our financial system; which is a very painful short recession, cured by a liberal bankruptcy law that eliminates the dad debt in the system while teaching many lessons. Instead we have massive denial by almost everyone evidenced by not holding our elected leaders strictly accountable for allowing illegal debts to be created by covering up other sworn leaders felonies. For ordinary citizens to learn that lesson requires real pain so they will use an election to hole leaders accountable.

As history shows, ignoring this heinous crime always condemns those societies to depression, war, and mass suffering. Since there are many more ordinary citizens than 3MS leaders in a democracy, there is a simple way to stop these results, start with publicly demanding that our elected leaders show they will start enforcing legal accountability on sworn leaders pronto by becoming members of the No 1st Cost List.



Scientific background to the Warning

"Objective facts" are eyewitness measurements and observations that are confirmed by other honest reporters. Thus "Objective facts" can only be created by two or more honest people. Since science is for all of us, this must mean negative or positive public feedback from anyone who sees "logical and observational discrepancies" in any scientist's public assertions. How else can our reports and theories be confirmed, improved, or disproved?

I, Dan Alter, made a fundamental scientific discovery in 1985. What "objective" measure of value that we spirits/souls all must and do use to keep our life forms alive. Presently here on Earth, almost always unconsciously. How to measure personal value and thus the common good. We unconsciously value(logically order) any piece of information we perceive through this measure. Thus knowing consciously what it is and how we use it must serve as the 'objective' causal premise for a scientific Grand Unification Theory.

It is a measure that by construction, assumes a conserved universe: One unit of time per unit of time alive, and no take backs.

In a conserved universe, we spirits must create a conservation debt made of Anti-Matter to keep our life forms alive. The only two questions that matter now are: 'when does the debt came due?', and 'can we disconnect from it?'. The answer to doing a disconnection is, of course, yes. God always gives us a final out. Doing a disconnection means we go faster than light(FTL) to the other side of the Sun. Should my prediction of how to do FTL be true, then it is simple to do and within our technological capabilities, and certainly the E-Ts capabilities.

Our problem is our 3MS leaders and they exist because we did NOT have a real public place to question and challenge one another about our public speech and related deeds. 3MS leaders are now found in every area of public endeavor, especially the sciences. Climate-gate is an obvious result.

The methods of our 3MS leaders and their supporters are simple. They suppress dissent by first ignoring criticisms and questions from citizens who feel, see, and can witness their hurtful actions = the Big Ignore. Push further and they call you names instead of answering = Attack the Messenger. They always hide and distort critically needed public information to evade public accountability for their mistakes and crimes = the Cover-Up. Though ostensibly elected and sworn to serve all; they think and act like a corrupt aristocracy.

Finally, they lie constantly and get away with it with the Big Ignore. Thus we require a safe public place where our information and charges can be verified by questions from anyone and confirmed by other witnesses.

The remedy is the No 1st Cost List. It is the only way we can use the internet to create a planet-wide public place that treats all of us as equals. Anybody can be a member. You have complete free speech about politics, science, the arts, to sell or solicit anything legal, and of course, especially to report lies and crimes done by sworn leaders or businesses. Above all, the N1CL is where honest citizens can work together as equals to solve our common problems, beginning with democratically, legally, and swiftly removing the 3MS leaders that we let govern us now.

One of the N1CL's highest services is to Objectively Verify or Disprove warnings of danger to Earth or anybody on Earth.


Our public dialogue starts with someone asking the first question: Questions please.(As of 05-16-10 not a single question about anything I have said from a stranger in the over 5 years that the N1CL has been operational. My oh my.)




Our First Warning




Reported by Dan Alter, n1cl-1.


I am a scientist. I have sworn to tell the truth on this public record.

I have a fearful prediction for the rest of you to confirm. At first, it was just a theoretical prediction with no objective evidence supporting it; but since 1992, a series of published scientific reports have verified every single causal link in the underlying theory, and now we there is a way to conclusively confirm the theories' ultimate conclusion.

For life to exist on a planet, we objectively real spirits must create a planetary conservation debt made of Anti-Matter(A-M) when we make our life forms move. Our spirits put our A-M debt onto the other side of our Moebius Strip Geometry Universe. Eventually a planet's conservation debt comes back to Earth striking our Sun, or it must be consciously disconnected. Our public choice.

Most present scientists deny that our life forms are driven by objectively real spirits, and they also believe that Einstein's Relativity Theory shows there is no base "frame of reference" that tie all other personal "reference frames" together. As we will see, both assertions are proven wrong when it is shown that we have an A-M conservation debt.

The crucial piece of proof that we are, in fact spirits, is that the E-Ts warning message shows exactly how our conservation debt made of Anti-Matter strikes our Sun, vaporizing Earth, leaving an Afterglow of expanding cooling gases. These afterglows were first seen by the Hubble after a 1997 Long Term Gamma Blaster(LTGB). Now we have seen many more afterglows after a LTGB occurs = vaporized life bearing planets.

The E-T public warning is a chilling four or five part message that includes two famous crop circles. The first was the "Barbary Castle" placed down on July 17, 1991 at 1:45 AM UTC that shows us how we are vaporized and the 'afterglow' that follows. It was followed exactly to the minute three years later by the Shoemaker-Levy comet that struck Jupiter on July 16, 1994(leap year) at 20:13 PM UTC. The third part of the E-T warning was the 'Missing Earth" crop circle On June 26, 1995 showing an asteroid conjunction.

The remaining parts of the E-T's warning message are one or probably two asteroid conjunction(s)' that can not occur naturally' = "must be caused by someones not from Earth". We will know which possibility after our astronomers look.

Read carefully, think, consider carefully, then act. Everyone's life depends upon our acting consciously and swiftly in public.

Predicted Conjunction(s)
When the asteroid conjunction shown in the 'Missing Earth" occurs on July 16, 2009, there will be a second conjunction on July 16, 2012 which decisively sums up the E-T's message.

Should the asteroid conjunction occur on July 16, 2012, then we will not get a second conjunction, and we will have to use other measurements to determine exactly when.

Confirming that one or both of these 'must be caused' asteroid conjunctions exists confirms that the message must be from E-Ts, since we Earthlings can not move asteroids into conjunction. Read More.






Here is the heart of the List, the Q&A procedures.

They are how we question and answer one another on the record. These procedures are not for cowards. Below them are the two boxes that explain how anyone can become a member or post without cost with a message to all. Read and think.

Question & Answer(Q&A) Dialogue Procedures

Anyone can Become a Member!

Anyone can "Recommend/Not-Recommend, Warn, or Dispute Public Facts". The N1CL calls doing this a "Yes/No"!



Anyone can Question a Member's or Yes/No person's postings!

How Do Entries to N1CL Public Record Work: You have 10 minutes after submission to edit, change, or delete your entry on the N1CL Public Record; then the entry is locked. You can always add more replies to your topic, or an answer in a Q&A dialogue to clarify until the other party answers. Also you can use open to all comment forums first to improve entry.

To Ask a Question: the Questioner and 'the Member or "Yes/No" person' agree to respond in turn, until the Questioner accepts the answer, or they agree to Disagree giving reason(s); using the 'Last Response' mechanism described below.

To Forward The Q&A Dialogue; either can check the "I beg to differ with you with reason(s)" box.

There are Four Ways to End a Q&A Dialogue:

1) The Questioner can check "I accept." and say something;

2) the Questioner can Accept by Default by not replying within 36 hour;

3) EITHER on their turn, can check 'this is my last response'; to which the OTHER can Accept by checking "I accept"; Or by Not Replying within 36 hours;

4. After stating reason(s) checks "I Disagree with the Last Response".

Changing an 'acceptance by not replying in time' to an 'I disagree' must be done during next logon.

Non-Members can not be questioned on the N1CL record about their Q&A dialogues with a Member or Yes/No person; but anyone can question their "Yes/No's".

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Dan: On BP well, a wee4ks delay at 36' per day grind up is 252' minimum up. My oh my, we shall see. Now all I pray for is another wrong prediction.
25-Jul-2010 20:14:21
Dan: "He who is taught to live upon little owes more to his father's wisdom than he who has a great deal left him does to his father's care." William Penn
25-Jul-2010 19:03:26
Dan: Market is starting to crash, the news has truly been awful. Even the govt totally bogus statistics are showing the accelerating contraction.
17-Jul-2010 22:21:00
Dan: "Doing is a quantum leap from imagining." Barbara Sher
09-Jul-2010 00:43:14
Dan: Eq. To only see 90 degrees Euclidean as a Moebius geometry spirit is the base assumption and implies all else.
08-Jul-2010 13:17:32
Dan: Equation: We predict our future location based on info from past arriving at c, To live we must change positions = move to stay alive = faster/slower than present position trajectory. Ergo the position of the observer must be off or just on = tangent to surface = sense position w respect to two Bowtie points on ends of Bowtie line. Entanglement means psir points can not be over 90 degrees Euclidean rotation of surface from each other.
29-Jun-2010 05:44:28
Dan: Equation: Four things need to be tied together, 1. The area of simultaneous NOW that we all share(see eq. fopr maximum surface area of Moebius), 2. balance between two sides surface of M is done in h-bar no matter the distance apart implied by simultaneous(a side is with respect to an observer), 3, area where light has not reached observer from yet, 4. we look backwards in time coming at us as light at at c.
29-Jun-2010 01:10:06
Dan: This is the crux of our predicament: "What is the worst crime in a democracy?" When we are equals be definition with equat inalienable rights and equanls before the our elected Laws; then not enforcing felony Laws on leaders is totally destructive to the durvival of democracy and equal rights. Here is where I must attack.
25-Jun-2010 19:20:02
Dan: It is apparent that BP's and Obama's only plan is to wait for relief wells, use dispersant, and collect as much as they can with top hat. They just had to shut that down for 10 hours for "maintenance". Please do not let it erode up from intake. BP went cheap every step of the way. Once it gets outside of casing below relief wells we are screwed, and that is assuming relief wells can work which is doubtful.
19-Jun-2010 23:46:44
Dan: I need to put in a followup on contract proposal.
17-Jun-2010 22:15:04
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