[x] User Info
Welcome Anonymous

Nickname
Password
Security CodeSecurity Code
Type Code

[x] Main Menu

Q&A Instructions

1. Copy-n-paste what your question is about from the Member's forum, someones Yes/No forum, or any Member Q&A Dialogue into Question & Answer Dialogue forum; then hit New Topic button and paste your copy in the New Topic box.

2. Put members nicl-(x) number, e.g. nicl-1 or Yes/No persons name in Subject rectangle followed by the subject of question. For a long question, add more at top of Topic box.

3. Remember you take turns, checking an "I agree" or a "this is my last response" ends your part in the dialogue, and the other person gets the last word.

4. Finally, read and reread the Q&A procedures. They are meant to treat both sides of a Dialogue impartially.

Finally, to open another popup, close the old one.


Comments on how "time " works in conserved universe.
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index n1cl-1 Dan Alter's forum

Author Message
Dan
Site Admin


Joined: Dec 31, 1969
Posts: 310
Location: USA

PostPost subject: Comments on how "time " works in conserved universe.
Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:39 pm

(revised 7-31-16) Why does time for we observers = life forms go in one direction from the past to the future = entropy always increases; yet the Laws of physics are bidirectional = symmetrical? e.g. you see a movie of a building demolition and it falls into a pile of rubble, but reverse the movie and the building seemingly puts itself back together, which our physics laws allow.

The answer is simple, the laws of physics allows an independent actor = a life form to move things around as long as they put some effort into it. No work, no magical rebuilding. In short, a form of time travel, as long as one goes faster than the rubble. That is easy since it just lays there until something exogenous acts on it. What is hard, of course, is to actually rebuild the building which requires someone to act anti-entropically = put in a lot of concentrated energy and effort to rebuild.

To analyze time travel by life forms we must first define what the NOW means = define what a conserved universe is. Every experiment we do rests on the fact that the amount of energy/matter measured at start of experiment = measurement amount afterwards. It always adds up to the beginning amount at end of experiment, or something exogenous has interfered.

So given the universe is conserved, then that directly implies that all of it exists simultaneously. Which at first seems to violate special relativity. As we shall see it does not. All relativity says is that looking at one another from different points on surface of space time moving at different percentages of c means that our clocks seem to speed up or slow down with respect to one another and foreshortening in direction of travel occurs between observers. When you think about it, that actually implies a simultaneous conserved existence for observers residing in our universe.

Given that the whole universe exists simultaneously, and since all measurements show it remains conserved instantaneously as entanglement shows. Physicists call this spooky instant action at any distance = FTL; then the real question is "How does it do that?"; "What geometry allows instant transmission of changes in particle states to happen?".

The answer is a Moebius geometry. That geometry puts severe limits on what Hows are possible = the necessary forces working to keep the number of plus/minus pair particles on opposite sides of the Moebius surface in equality. All of our base physics equations require equal amounts of matter and ant-matter to exist.

So far we do not know where the anti-matter is. On a Moebius, it is right on the other side of the surface, by inspection.

Time is funny. Everyone seems to think we can time travel. In fact we do if going faster than something else is time travel. But in the sense of going into the past or future as in sci-fi books, not a chance. Only the NOW exists. St. Augustine was right about that, the past is gone, the future has not been created yet. How to go FTL shown by where light from your destination is.

We of course can go FTL to other parts of the Now as long as we do not violate your personal time-line. Since this is testable, we shall see.

More later, I will discuss Einsteins definition of time and show why physicists missed what he meant about simultaneity.


7-31-16 From "The Special and General Theory" 1920

"Events which are simultaneous with reference to the embankment are not simultaneous with respect to the train, and vice versa (relativity of simultaneity). Every reference-body (co-ordinate system) has its own particular time; unless we are told the reference-body to which the statement of time refers, there is no meaning in a statement of the time of an event."

Here is where you see Einsteins "Missed implication", 'How we can measure our speed with respect to c.'.

Wait a minute? "there is no meaning in a statement of the time of an event." But we can with respect to c, so is not that a measure of time with respect to "simultaneous"?



_________________
"I swear to speak honestly and seek the truth when I use the No 1st Cost List public record."
Back to top
View user's profile Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic   Printer Friendly Page    Forum Index n1cl-1 Dan Alter's forum
Page 1 of 1
All times are GMT



Jump to:  


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Seeing Ourselves [x]

Forums Last posts [x]
Last 10 Forum Messages

"Relative to 'c' Velocity/Vector Meter" & how to develop it.
Last post by Dan in Stopping Our Anti-Matter conservation debt from striking the Sun July 16, 2024 on Mar 28, 2017 at 04:07:44

End of the World jokes
Last post by Dan in Stories that teach lessons: Starting with a "Poker Story". on Jan 25, 2017 at 02:53:15

Why did EPA secretly increase allowed radiation in water??
Last post by Dan in Stopping Our Anti-Matter conservation debt from striking the Sun July 16, 2024 on Jan 24, 2017 at 11:13:12

A ToE that uses Gravity to link the other three basic forces
Last post by Dan in n1cl-1 Dan Alter's forum on Dec 25, 2016 at 11:19:15

The base premise for a Moebius universe ToE.
Last post by Dan in n1cl-1 Dan Alter's forum on Oct 17, 2016 at 06:48:23

Trumps nomination is the death of our Three Monkey Society.
Last post by Dan in Politics on Jul 25, 2016 at 19:35:35

Using zero(s) to count units in our present number system.
Last post by Dan in n1cl-1 Dan Alter's forum on Jul 16, 2016 at 02:39:04

You Are Free Only When You Protect Others Property
Last post by Dan in Politics on Mar 15, 2016 at 03:45:08

Why Fukushima is still pouring radiation into our oceans.
Last post by Dan in Stopping Our Anti-Matter conservation debt from striking the Sun July 16, 2024 on Mar 14, 2016 at 07:43:29

Had not E-Ts warned us how our Sun explodes, we couldn't..
Last post by Dan in Stopping Our Anti-Matter conservation debt from striking the Sun July 16, 2024 on Mar 06, 2016 at 06:14:38


Latest Articles [x]

Disconnect Links [x]
This URL is for those of you who deny the E-Ts existence.

Disclosure Project has 500 govt witnesses who swore before Congress to their direct E-T contacts.

This climate url speaks to how corrupt much of our scientific establishment has become.

Why rising CO2 levels Can NOT cause global warming.

Cimate Fraud Whistleblower Rewards Program

Why is handling the massive scientific disagreement with the AGW(Anthropogenic Global Warming = (man caused) proponents crucial to disconnecting Earth's Anti-Matter debt?

Our leaders and thus most of you will not seek the truth about our real place in the universe. Why is explained by ignorance and self service. Until our society openly deals with this easy to resolve scientific disagreement, I must conclude we will not act to prevent Earth from being vaporized.

These links deal directly with How to Prevent our Sun from exploding.

How do we prevent our Sun from exploding July 16, 2024?

9-21-12 How to find the 2 conjunction asteroids in the "Missing Earth" crop circle?


This math is required.
How to use a circle to relate 'e' to Phi.


Confirming objective reports.
National UFO Reporting Center

Crop Circle Connector


2-4-2017 Needed A-M debt Disconnection Tools, Measurements & Must Do's

HOW can we get these tests DONE?

Contact Congress

The Latest Changes Made To Site




Visitors [x]
We have received
6978718
page views since
April 27, 2005


COPYRIGHT 2005 No 1st Cost List, Patent# 8566730 issued 10/22/2013
The logos and trademarks used on this site are the property of their respective owners.
We are not responsible for any information and comments posted by our users, as they are the property of the poster.
Unless you charge above actual copying expense, you may read, copy, reprint, incorporate or pass on to others in any form the material put on the
No 1st Cost List public record for public and private benefit.
When charging above actual copying expenses, except for accepted 'fair use', you must arrange terms of compensation with the author(s).
Interactive software released under GNU GPL, Code Credits, Privacy Policy
includes/cmsinit.inc